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Greg Hardy's Indefinite Leave Provides Few Answers

when embattled Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy was put on the Exempt/Commissioner’s Permission List Wednesday, his immediate future appeared clear. He will not be allowed to play or practice with the team until his legal situation is settled. And because his jury trial on domestic violence charges is scheduled for Nov. 17, the Panthers can plan on not having his services until then, at least.But as we have found out the last week and a half, it would be silly to assume anything in the new NFL landscape.photo“Greg is part of this football team. We’ve done nothing other than grant him a leave of absence,” head coach Ron Rivera said after the Panthers met with Hardy and his agent Drew Rosenhaus. “He’s still being paid. He’s still part of this football team. In due time, he will be back here, and we can get this resolved.”Hardy will be paid handsomely while he sits out. His $13.1 million franchise tag costs the Panthers $770,000 per week for a player not even on the active roster.But a lost season could mean the loss of a potentially big contract for one of the best pass rushers in the league. So Hardy has plenty of incentives to get his legal situation figured out sooner rather than later.“I understand that I need to step away from football right now and take care of this legal matter,” Hardy said in a statement released by the Panthers. “I am entitled to due process and my day in court, and that’s where my focus should be.”The expectation has been that Hardy’s trial will not be heard until 2015, but that was before the world saw the tape of former Ravens running back Ray Rice punching his then fiancé.After Rice was released and suspended indefinitely by the league, the national spotlight quickly landed on the Panthers. They’ve since taken heavy criticism for actions they took — and didn’t take — after Hardy was arrested in May.In July, a North Carolina judge found him guilty of two counts of domestic violence against his ex-girlfriend. But Hardy immediately appealed, and he was afforded his right to a jury trial.Soon after, with the legal process still very much unsettled, the Panthers announced they would not enforce possible discipline until the case was finished in court. So Hardy went through training camp and the preseason like normal. Then he played in the Panthers’ Week 1 win at Tampa Bay. The next morning, TMZ released the Rice tape.”At that time we felt it was the right thing to do,” general manager Dave Gettleman said Wednesday, when asked why the Panthers allowed Hardy to play in the opener. “There’s no rule book for this. There’s no magic list that we can hit checkboxes with and for that to bring us to the right answer.”Last Friday, when the Vikings quickly deactivated running back Adrian Peterson after he was indicted on a charge of child abuse, outside pressure grew on the Panthers, who were planning on playing Hardy against the Lions. Rivera eventually made an 11th-hour decision to pull Hardy from the lineup, but a new cycle began with a new week.Rivera said Monday that Hardy would practice this week. Rivera also left open the possibility Hardy could play in front of a national TV audience against the Steelers. But Wednesday put an end to what would have been more drama-filled days leading up to Sunday.Of course, the cloud of controversy is unlikely to disappear just yet. Through Sunday, the Panthers will continue to be questioned both on national TV, and inside the locker room.“I think you just want the right resolution. I think that’s the magic question right now: What is the perfect scenario for everyone? That’s for other people besides us to make those decisions,” tight end Greg Olsen said.Hardy’s spot in the lineup will be filled by a rotation of Wes Horton, Mario Addison and Kony Ealy. The trio isn’t as dynamic as Hardy, but as they showed against the Lions, they can play a bit as well.So it appears the young ends should have until November to rack up experience. It could be longer than that. Or perhaps Hardy will rush to get his case resolved sooner so he can get back on the field quicker.Wednesday’s news may have appeared to be a period at the end of controversial sentence. But ultimately, it may have just been a comma in a story that is still unfolding.”There are a lot of circumstances that we don’t know. There are a lot of situations that we don’t understand,” Rivera said. “I really just hope people understand we’re doing the best we can under the circumstances that we have and we’re trying to get this right. And at the end of the day, we have to come up with solutions to make that this does not happen again.”

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  • MangoPanther

    The Panthers really look like they were reactive in this whole thing. It should have never been in the hands of Panthers to make a decision since there is no precedent and previous such incidents have not resulted in a deactivation. I guess there will always be a before and after Ray Rice when it comes to these matters in NFL. I agree with punishment and do not condone this sort of behavior but now the Panthers are paying him Franchise player money to sit on his ass..Well done NFL !

  • MangoPanther

    The Panthers really look like they were reactive in this whole thing. It should have never been in the hands of Panthers to make a decision since there is no precedent and previous such incidents have not resulted in a deactivation. I guess there will always be a before and after Ray Rice when it comes to these matters in NFL. I agree with punishment and do not condone this sort of behavior but now the Panthers are paying him Franchise player money to sit on his ass..Well done NFL !

  • Freckle_brown

    BlackBlueReview here is the answer. Panthers don’t feel that he is guilty but are forced into these actions by public opinion.

  • Freckle_brown

    BlackBlueReview here is the answer. Panthers don’t feel that he is guilty but are forced into these actions by public opinion.

  • BlackBlueReview

    Freckle_brown they don’t KNOW he’s guilty. there’s a distinction. many fans don’t feel that he is guilty.

  • BlackBlueReview

    Freckle_brown they don’t KNOW he’s guilty. there’s a distinction. many fans don’t feel that he is guilty.

  • Freckle_brown

    BlackBlueReview the sadness in coaches voice says it all.

  • Freckle_brown

    BlackBlueReview the sadness in coaches voice says it all.

  • BlackBlueReview

    Freckle_brown it’s more frustration of all the stones being thrown from a media/public that knows even less.

  • BlackBlueReview

    Freckle_brown it’s more frustration of all the stones being thrown from a media/public that knows even less.

  • Freckle_brown

    BlackBlueReview I completely agree that we only know rumors. Rumors shouldn’t be reason for punishment.

  • Freckle_brown

    BlackBlueReview I completely agree that we only know rumors. Rumors shouldn’t be reason for punishment.

  • SoulCitySigma

    I hope this is making Alexander feel some kind of way. The team needs you buddy, please try to keep your nose clean for the rest of the season for your teammates. We need you back and we need you through season’s end.

  • SoulCitySigma

    I hope this is making Alexander feel some kind of way. The team needs you buddy, please try to keep your nose clean for the rest of the season for your teammates. We need you back and we need you through season’s end.

  • ChristopherHethcox

    I think the Panthers have done a great job during the process. They were going to let due process play out, rightfully so. Unfortunately, there was a Rice video which swayed public opinion from “whatever” to “THEY ARE ALL GUILTY” and put the spot light on all these instances throughout the NFL. The Panthers were put in a tough situation where all decisions would be wrong. If they left Greg active, they run into the 49ers situation, where their were articles published about their inconsistency and really made just to look like inconsiderate jerks in the press conferences. Making him inactive, of course has brought in the “well why did you let him play week one” crowd as well as the ones who recognize due process has not proved him guilty as of yet.

    As far as protecting the brand and reacting to the “climate change” mentioned by Rivera, they have handled it the only way you can possibly handle it without a time machine, but have still been criticized for their poor decision making by the Charlotte Observer. Site: (“The Panthers’ entire leadership team needs to go to a seminar on crisis management. They mishandled this one on several levels.” – Scott Fowler Charlotte Observer  http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/09/17/5181678/panthers-owe-greg-hardy-at-least.html) I would challenge anyone to give a chronological order on how they would have handled it given the way situations have been handled per prior precedence that would have been less damaging.

    I do believe in due process and do not believe in guilt or innocence, even after following black and blue reviews live tweeting of the whole bench trial. I also recognize the need of the Panthers to protect the brand and eliminate distractions. I applaud the Panthers for the way they have handled the situation with the facts available.

  • ChristopherHethcox

    I think the Panthers have done a great job during the process. They were going to let due process play out, rightfully so. Unfortunately, there was a Rice video which swayed public opinion from “whatever” to “THEY ARE ALL GUILTY” and put the spot light on all these instances throughout the NFL. The Panthers were put in a tough situation where all decisions would be wrong. If they left Greg active, they run into the 49ers situation, where their were articles published about their inconsistency and really made just to look like inconsiderate jerks in the press conferences. Making him inactive, of course has brought in the “well why did you let him play week one” crowd as well as the ones who recognize due process has not proved him guilty as of yet.

    As far as protecting the brand and reacting to the “climate change” mentioned by Rivera, they have handled it the only way you can possibly handle it without a time machine, but have still been criticized for their poor decision making by the Charlotte Observer. Site: (“The Panthers’ entire leadership team needs to go to a seminar on crisis management. They mishandled this one on several levels.” – Scott Fowler Charlotte Observer  http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/09/17/5181678/panthers-owe-greg-hardy-at-least.html) I would challenge anyone to give a chronological order on how they would have handled it given the way situations have been handled per prior precedence that would have been less damaging.

    I do believe in due process and do not believe in guilt or innocence, even after following black and blue reviews live tweeting of the whole bench trial. I also recognize the need of the Panthers to protect the brand and eliminate distractions. I applaud the Panthers for the way they have handled the situation with the facts available.

  • JerodShuford

    ChristopherHethcox I couldn’t disagree more!  The Panthers have bungled this every step of the way.
    1) They should have deactivated him or cut him as soon as he was found guilty (which you say he hasn’t been, but he has).  They should have done this from both a moral and a business stance and they would have avoided the media storm of bad publicity and also not been subject to those “allegations” of inconsistent behavior.  Allegations which are, in fact, true.

    2) This “voluntary leave of absence” seems like a pretty clear ploy to have their cake and eat it too.  By Hardy “voluntarily” leaving the team they get rid of the distraction without being forced to take a moral stance against domestic violence.  They appease their misogynist fans that blast Twitter and fan sites with hateful rhetoric about Ms. Holder, and appease their fans who believe Hardy shouldn’t be playing while appealing a conviction for domestic violence by getting him off the field.
    Instead of the organization taking any heat everyone can just blame the terrible, awful media who just won’t stop talking about how the Panthers are playing millions of dollars to a man convicted of beating a woman and threatening to kill her.

    It’s a crass and cowardly move.

  • JerodShuford

    ChristopherHethcox I couldn’t disagree more!  The Panthers have bungled this every step of the way.
    1) They should have deactivated him or cut him as soon as he was found guilty (which you say he hasn’t been, but he has).  They should have done this from both a moral and a business stance and they would have avoided the media storm of bad publicity and also not been subject to those “allegations” of inconsistent behavior.  Allegations which are, in fact, true.

    2) This “voluntary leave of absence” seems like a pretty clear ploy to have their cake and eat it too.  By Hardy “voluntarily” leaving the team they get rid of the distraction without being forced to take a moral stance against domestic violence.  They appease their misogynist fans that blast Twitter and fan sites with hateful rhetoric about Ms. Holder, and appease their fans who believe Hardy shouldn’t be playing while appealing a conviction for domestic violence by getting him off the field.
    Instead of the organization taking any heat everyone can just blame the terrible, awful media who just won’t stop talking about how the Panthers are playing millions of dollars to a man convicted of beating a woman and threatening to kill her.

    It’s a crass and cowardly move.

  • JerodShuford

    @Freckle_brown BlackBlueReview We know far more than rumors.  We  know everything that was present at a trial which included a full disclosure of the events, presentation of evidence by both prosecution and defense, and multiple eye-witness accounts.
    Follow that trial a judge convicted Hardy of assault and communicating threats, stating that the court “had no doubt” he was guilty.
    Hardy is appealing that conviction, but none of that is rumor.

  • JerodShuford

    @Freckle_brown BlackBlueReview We know far more than rumors.  We  know everything that was present at a trial which included a full disclosure of the events, presentation of evidence by both prosecution and defense, and multiple eye-witness accounts.
    Follow that trial a judge convicted Hardy of assault and communicating threats, stating that the court “had no doubt” he was guilty.
    Hardy is appealing that conviction, but none of that is rumor.